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  • How many Quickenings did the Kurgan have?

    We know that Jacob Kell was the most powerful Immortal in 2004 with 665 Quickenings or so... but how many did the Kurgan have in 1985?
    Highlander: Dark Places

  • #2
    Only a handful that we know of:

    Kastagir, Ramirèz, Yung Dol Kim, Osta Vasilek and the Mongol.

    I think the comics and watcher files credit him with a few more so maybe a dozen at most?
    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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    • #3
      I'm going to arbitrarily say over a hundred. He was, after all, the head-hunting sort. I wonder if, in the series continuity, he might just have stumbled upon Connor rather than been seeking him specifically before he was even born. In that case, his path might be littered with the heads of pre-Immortals.

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      • Nicholas Ward
        Nicholas Ward commented
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        If going by number of Quickenings is the proper indication of power, then he's bound to have more than Connor had in 1986.
        We know from Endgame Connor had 262 with an rough average of 1 Quickening every 2 years.

        So the Kurgan likely had a minimum of around 300 Quickenings to account for the power difference but if he would match Connors average he would have been twice as powerful as Kell, which is doubtful. Therefore between 300 an 600 is probably the range he's at. Not a very proficient head hunter given his lifespan.

        ​​​​​​​That is IF the numbers represent actual heads taken by the mentioned immortals and not an estimate of total Quickenings gathered.

      • dubiousbystander
        dubiousbystander commented
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        That makes sense. And how is your future story going? Where is Duncan?

    • #4
      Realistically, he probably have several thousand. He was an active headhunter, and at least in one universe almost won the Prize. Even with a hundred or two years in seclusion, he didn't hesitate - with very few exceptions, every Immortal he faced was finished the moment he met them.

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      • dubiousbystander
        dubiousbystander commented
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        I don't imagine there were several thousand for him to have. Unless you count the Quickenings of others.

      • Aleander
        Aleander commented
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        No, I'm refering to his kills. And why not? How do we know how many Immortals existed in the 3000 years he was alive? How do we know? Heck, we even learned there was an Immortal civil war, according to the Four Horsemen audio plays, and the numbers on that one was a LOT, let me tell you.

      • dubiousbystander
        dubiousbystander commented
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        True enough. So tell me, how many other Immortals did Methos meet before he stumbled upon Dilijan?

    • #5
      It is fair to point out that we have no idea how many Immortals there are on the planet at any given time. There might be a few thousand or there might only be a few dozen. I get the impression that the population of Immortals compared to mortals is usually quite small. And, there weren't always as many humans on the planet period as there are now. A smaller human population means an even smaller Immortal population. It's entirely possible that even after 3000 years The Kurgan's head count was surprisingly low, simply because Immortals can be hard to find, and the ones who know what they're doing usually make an effort not to be found. We can't really rule anything out.

      But, I'm sure The Kurgan was strong enough to take on Kell.

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      • #6
        Originally posted by Darth Reaper View Post
        It is fair to point out that we have no idea how many Immortals there are on the planet at any given time. There might be a few thousand or there might only be a few dozen. I get the impression that the population of Immortals compared to mortals is usually quite small. And, there weren't always as many humans on the planet period as there are now. A smaller human population means an even smaller Immortal population. It's entirely possible that even after 3000 years The Kurgan's head count was surprisingly low, simply because Immortals can be hard to find, and the ones who know what they're doing usually make an effort not to be found. We can't really rule anything out.

        But, I'm sure The Kurgan was strong enough to take on Kell.
        I'd say the original film gives the impression the number of immortals isn't that high, not only don't see see many but the Kurgan and Ramirez spend many years searching for Conor. To me it gives the impression its really more the Kurgan who is the main "head hunter" and most immortals are mainly focused on their own lives rather than the game.

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