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  • Messy's always been a tough one to judge. He's hinted at a darker past, and even his present is dubious as to whether he can really be trusted to not take your head when you're not expecting it. Wells just seems like an average dude who fights only when provoked. If forced to fight, Messenger wins, because Ron Perlman. IE What he said.

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    • The Messenger is not a pacifist anymore!
      The Messenger
      Attack 4
      Defence 3
      Speed 77
      Agility 55
      Strength 88
      Power: 220
      Average: 44
      Arrogance -10% -22
      Adaptability 0% 0
      Special skill:
      Total: 198

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      Annie Devlin versus Michael Kent
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      Annie Devlin Michael Kent
      Attack 26 Attack 82
      Defence 24 Defence 85
      Speed 24 Speed 72
      Agility 24 Agility 73
      Strength 27 Strength 73
      Power: 125 VS. Power: 385
      Average: 25 Average: 77
      Arrogance 0% 0 Arrogance -1% -4
      Adaptability 0% 0 Adaptability 0% 0
      Special skill: Special skill:
      Neutral Total: 125 Neutral Total: 381
      May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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      • Kent, easily.

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        • You have said you just assign numbers. I think, as written, Annie would have been better than this. Though her arrogance and adaptability would have lowered her score.

          So I'm going with Annie.

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          • Nicholas Ward
            Nicholas Ward commented
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            True, I made up all stats. Still there is a system to it:
            It largely follows the Tier list and the scale is from 0 to 500 with

            0 = absolutely useless,
            100 = decent,
            200 = good,
            300 = very good,
            400 = exceptional,
            500 = perfect.

            With that in mind I set Amanda at 350 and The Kurgan at 440 and judged all immortals' visual performances as well as the watcher files. That way I got numbers relative to the other immortals of the Tier list starting from the top down. All immortals are at their best, which is why Richie is ranked higher than Mako even though Mako was better at the time they met, for example.
            Some immortals have special skills to help them and I tried to incorporate them as faithfully as I could. But everything is up for debate and I do tinker with the numbers and special skills from time to time.

            All these fights, votes and comments help me standardise the net gain from a victory over a better or weaker immortal opponent.

          • dubiousbystander
            dubiousbystander commented
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            You are great!

        • Michael Kent would beat her in less than 15 seconds.

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          • Michael Kent takes out the ferocious Annie Devlin!
            Michael Kent
            Attack 90
            Defence 94
            Speed 79
            Agility 80
            Strength 80
            Power: 424
            Average: 85
            Arrogance -1% -4
            Adaptability 0% 0
            Special skill:
            Total: 419
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            David Quinlan (Highlander: The Watcher) versus Bartholomew (Highlander: The Series)

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            David Quinlan Bartholomew
            Attack 50 Attack 78
            Defence 50 Defence 87
            Speed 50 Speed 78
            Agility 50 Agility 75
            Strength 50 Strength 85
            Power: 250 VS. Power: 403
            Average: 50 Average: 81
            Arrogance -0% 0 Arrogance -2% -8
            Adaptability 10% 25 Adaptability 0% 0
            Special skill: Special skill:
            Inside information:
            Negate opponents Defence & Adaptability
            Shield bearer:
            Bartolomew's Defence cannot be lowered.
            Total: 275 Evil Total: 395
            May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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            • I prefer David. I think he has knowledge that will help. Of course, you gave him a lot for adaptability.

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              • Thing with Bartholomew, is that shield gives him SUCH an obnoxious advantage in an open space against a single weapon fighter. You're going to have to have someone who is significantly better than Bartholomew to be able to take him down. Bartholomew is old and while he's a bit of a coward he has proven he's a patient fighter. His fight with Katharine went a long time - lots of credit to her for being patient too. Someone fighting someone with a shield may be overly aggressive to try to make something happen and she didn't do that. Kudos. Bartholomew was also not overly sloppy; he just got taken down by a better/smarter fighter.

                This guy isn't going to do it. He probably puts up a brave fight but Bartholomew takes him down without much doubt in my mind. VOTE: Bart

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                • Aragorn makes some great points. I'm voting for Bartie.

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                  • So Bartholomew takes down David Quinlan after a long fight!
                    Bartholomew
                    Attack 86
                    Defence 96
                    Speed 86
                    Agility 83
                    Strength 94
                    Power: 443
                    Average: 89
                    Arrogance -2% -9
                    Adaptability 10% 44
                    Special skill:
                    Shield bearer:
                    Bartolomew's Defence cannot be lowered.
                    Total: 479

                    Next execution:

                    Antonius Kalas versus Derek Worth
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                    Antonius Kalas Derek Worth
                    Attack 86 Attack 6
                    Defence 82 Defence 6
                    Speed 82 Speed 7
                    Agility 80 Agility 9
                    Strength 87 Strength 10
                    Power: 417 VS. Power: 38
                    Average: 83 Average: 8
                    Arrogance -2% -8 Arrogance 0% 0
                    Adaptability 0% 0 Adaptability 0% 0
                    Special skill: Special skill:
                    Psychological Warfare:
                    Lower opponents power by 15.
                    Evil Total: 409 Good Total: 38
                    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                    • At least David got a long fight! Derek, oh poor Derek. No chance.

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                      • Oof. Kalas toys with Derek a while. I could see Derek getting in a surprise move or two, but nothing that would make much of a difference in the end. Kalas takes it.

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                        • Yeah this fight lasts as long as Kalas wants it to. He also gets t pick the winner, so ... Kalas wins.

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                          • Kalas takes whatever Derek was worth!
                            Antonius Kalas
                            Attack 95
                            Defence 90
                            Speed 90
                            Agility 88
                            Strength 96
                            Power: 459
                            Average: 92
                            Arrogance -2% -9
                            Adaptability 0% 0
                            Special skill:
                            Psychological Warfare:
                            Lower opponents power by 15.
                            Total: 450
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                            Morgan Walker versus Hamza El Kahir

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                            Morgan Walker Hamza el Kahir
                            Attack 40 Attack 58
                            Defence 46 Defence 58
                            Speed 50 Speed 58
                            Agility 50 Agility 58
                            Strength 45 Strength 58
                            Power: 231 VS. Power: 290
                            Average: 46 Average: 58
                            Arrogance -2% -5 Arrogance 0% 0
                            Adaptability 0% 0 Adaptability 0% 0
                            Special skill: Special skill:
                            Neutral Total: 226 Good Total: 290
                            May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                            • Don't really think ol' Morg has the skills, going with Hamza for this bout.

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                              • I see these two on a fairly even level, maybe a slight advantage to Hamza (at least Xavier knew of the guy by reputation). So el Kahir takes it.

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                                • I think this would be a good fight. I think Hamza had more experience and abilities but Morgan has more modern training which would help him. I agree with the others that Hamza would most likely take it.

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                                  • I am biased in favor of Hamza, anyway. Plus Morgan doesn't just have a lower score, he's a weasel.

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                                    • Hamza takes out the weasly Walker!
                                      Hamza el Kahir
                                      Attack 64
                                      Defence 64
                                      Speed 64
                                      Agility 64
                                      Strength 64
                                      Power: 319
                                      Average: 64
                                      Arrogance -2% -6
                                      Adaptability 0% 0
                                      Special skill:
                                      Total: 313

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                                      Kate Devany (Highlander: Endgame) versus Ximena (Highlander: Dark Places)
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                                      Kate Devaney Ximena
                                      Attack 8 Attack 53
                                      Defence 8 Defence 52
                                      Speed 8 Speed 60
                                      Agility 8 Agility 72
                                      Strength 8 Strength 55
                                      Power: 40 VS. Power: 292
                                      Average: 8 Average: 58
                                      Arrogance -3% -1 Arrogance 0% 0
                                      Adaptability 0% 0 Adaptability 0% 0
                                      Special skill: Special skill:
                                      Seduction:
                                      If opponent is Good or Evil lower his/her Strength by 15.
                                      Dual Wield: Lower opponents defence by 10.
                                      Neutral Total: 39 Total: 292
                                      May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                      • Ximena wins in a landslide. She's cool!

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                                        • Kate's just not a fighter. Should would take someone like Sharon but not anyone with any real combat experience. So Xiemena as she clearly has some experience.

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