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    I can't remember who posted that they had discovered a program that could open the CD so it could be accessed. If you know how to do that can you post the secret here and have it stickied More fans have been asking on the other Highlander fan sites. It would be nice to have that info also available here.

  • #2
    Our beloved Nicholas Ward is the king.

    It's not so much discovered a PROGRAM that could open the CD, at least in my case. Basically, what you need is a way to run Windows 3.11, because THAT is the OS that can run the CD.

    DOSBox was recommended to me.
    https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php...=3210&letter=W

    I found a download for windows 3.11 here.
    http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=27770

    Here also seems to be a good blow-by-blow instruction on how to do it.
    https://www.howtogeek.com/230359/how...-16-bit-games/

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    • #3
      Most of us old fans don't have the Watcher CD and even so it is outdated : 22 years have passed since it was created in 1998 and it concentrated on the TV series Immortals, with poorly-written and researched "bios" which were less biographies of Immortals than extrapolations of the episodes in which they appeared (dixit Donna Lettow, CD's author).

      There are background informations on the series Immortals with few valid historical research, none on the movies Immortals, or on the canonical novels Immortals. We learn nothing about Immortals populations curves (how many Immortals are in the world exactly ?). Lot of in-jokes (Obelix the Gaul is the teacher of Karros ? Really ?). No proofreading, no background information on the Watchers, etc.. It is aged badly in my opinion.
      It was never updated when the Raven aired, so that means no Raven chronicles. Even Donna Lettow stated she wasn't "interesied in writing more shit about Immortals".

      A frustrating read two decades later. Even I completely parted from the CD informations and did a complete rewrite of the series Immortals for the needs of my databases. My readers and co-author agree with that move.

      If you want something done well... do it yourself.
      Last edited by Gardner; 07-21-2020, 01:18 AM.

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      • #4
        If you really intend to depart from the original, stop using other people's immortals. Deciding that raped and murdered is a better way for a pre-Immortal to come into her immortality than getting hit by lightning?

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        • #5
          I am writing original background stories for canonical Immortals, adding creative writing and historical research. I answer to no one when it comes to creative writing : in 20 years I created 3.000 Immortal characters including 1100 with help from Apollo1.

          Cordially.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gardner View Post
            I am writing original background stories for canonical Immortals, adding creative writing and historical research. I answer to no one when it comes to creative writing : in 20 years I created 3.000 Immortal characters including 1100 with help from Apollo1.

            Cordially.
            You have created a lot, and deviated widely from Highlander. Just a little bit of tweaking, and you could probably sell your own original novel or tv series plot about clans of immortals warring secretly behind the scenes of the mortal world.
            Last edited by dubiousbystander; 07-27-2020, 09:15 PM.

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            • #7
              They sould need to be my own characters, not those co-created with Apollo1 or other authors for reaosns of iintellectual properties.
              No more Gathering, no more Holy Grounds, no more Watchers or Hunters, none of the canonical Highlander characters whatsoever.

              And then maybe I could sell my creations under hte banner of a clan war between different families of Immortals.
              Even so, I could get sued by Davis Productions for plagiarism.

              G.

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              • #8
                I don't know. They certainly didn't sue the guys who made that new movie, The Old Guard. And I read about this new comic coming out from Keanu Reeves, BRZRKR. Which I suppose means that Berserker is too common for them.

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                • Colleengael
                  Colleengael commented
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                  I laughed when I heard about Keanu's immortal comic book character. Paul Johansson starred in a movie called Berserker before he played Nick Wolf.

              • #9
                Yes well, my show would be Highlander without hte elements of Highlander lol Check Britannia from the BBC : an extended series about Celtic Brtiain warriors and druids, haf historical, half romantic, half fantasy show. An extended flashback sequence of Ceirdwyn vs Roman legion in Take Back the Night.

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                • #10
                  Not sure if I agree with the most of us old fans don't have the Watcher CD comment as that was a widely sold item back in the day that most die hard fans picked up and even with the time gap it is still very much relevant in terms of back history on them up to a point. As for running it I personally use Virtualbox myself and boot up a copy of Windows 98 in order to view mine. I owned the original Watcher Chronicles CD before they came out with The New Watcher Chronicles and after a house fire that happened several years ago I had lost it and at the time wasn't sure where to find a copy of it anymore. I got hooked up with an ISO of the new one and to be honest I was actually disappointed in it because it was missing information the original version had if I remember right. Like some files on immortals from the movies such as The Kurgan for example. Plus I just liked the lay out better. Don't suppose anyone knows if there is a downloadable ISO of the original CD still in existence on an adbandonware site or something out there is there? Anyway thanks in advance. Stay safe all.

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                  • dubiousbystander
                    dubiousbystander commented
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                    I finally got the original running, but it does not seem to have the Kurgan. awe!

                • #11
                  Originally posted by KOOLLAYDTAC View Post
                  I got hooked up with an ISO of the new one and to be honest I was actually disappointed in it because it was missing information the original version had if I remember right. Like some files on immortals from the movies such as The Kurgan for example. Plus I just liked the lay out better. Don't suppose anyone knows if there is a downloadable ISO of the original CD still in existence on an adbandonware site or something out there is there? Anyway thanks in advance. Stay safe all.
                  Well now I want the ISO of the original, too! Nice!

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by dubiousbystander View Post

                    Well now I want the ISO of the original, too! Nice!
                    Well I have The New Watcher Chronicles ISO not The Watcher Chronicles original first edition. That's actually the one I am still looking for mate. I can upload the one I have for you to Google drive if you want or need that one though. I'll be more then happy to hook you up mate.

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                    • dubiousbystander
                      dubiousbystander commented
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                      Oh I'm okay. I have that one. Thank you so much for the offer!

                  • #13
                    Also I am going to add this for those interested. I hope this is OK to do. It may or may not be relevant to the conversation and topic at hand.

                    I ran across this site a while back that also has a copy of The New Watcher Chronicles as well too.
                    https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/hig...her-chronicles

                    This is their guide on emulation.
                    https://macintoshgarden.org/guides

                    To my understanding you need to use some program called StuffIt Expander to extract the contents of the ISO which can be found here at this site.
                    https://www.stuffit.com/

                    Since I haven't vetted these sites personally I would urge anyone to use caution when visiting or downloading files from any new web site. I just know it's pulled up in my searches over the years when looking for the original first edition copy online. The site seems legit, but like with anything online I'd just be careful mates. Hope this helps and good luck.

                    And before while I am thinking about it. I'll probably upload my copy to Gmail later on today or tonight. So since I don't really know the Gmail rules when it comes to sharing that sort of thing given how old the software is I am thinking I probably shouldn't have it on public access so if anyone wants my copy just hit me up in PM's with your Gmail so I can add you to the download access list and you will be all set. Thanks in advance. Take care and safe mates.

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