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    If we take what we know from the Source, the first immortal would be way older than Methos. Because Methos is almost 5200 years old (see: reunion) and the Elder was an immortal searching for the Source 10,000 years ago. That would imply that immortals fought and beheaded each other long before that event, just to justify the accumulation of knowledge needed of the Source (which could then be lost due to described events).
    If however we take other rules into account (no fighting on holy ground), we could argue that, if those rules were active from the beginning, certain qualifications have to be met. Therefore he or she is unlikely to be a million years old. The oldest known evidence of human burial (and with that possibly a sense of higher powers) are roughly 300,000 years old. That would put the first immortal in the Neanderthal time frame. (This was hinted at in 'the beast below' episode of the Highlander TV series as well). So between 200,000 BCE to around 40,000 BCE but probably closer to the latter than the former.


    When do you think immortality manifested?
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    6.000 BCE (rise of civilization)
    25.00%
    1
    10.000 BCE (neolithic revolution)
    0%
    0
    40,000 BCE (behavioral modernity)
    50.00%
    2
    100,000 BCE (oldest known ritual burial)
    0%
    0
    200,000 BCE (Homo sapiens)
    25.00%
    1
    300,000 BCE (religious behaviors)
    0%
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    < 500,000 BCE (somewhere during the evolution of Homo erectus)
    0%
    0
    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

  • #2
    No idea, but it's unlikely that the Game started prior to bronze blades. Can't you imagine whacking off a head with a stone blade?
    “A sinner can always repent, but stupid is forever.”
    Billy Sunday

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Coolwater View Post
      No idea, but it's unlikely that the Game started prior to bronze blades. Can't you imagine whacking off a head with a stone blade?
      It would be hard indeed but not unheard of. Head hunting as a practise by tribes is documented all over the globe. Although I can't find when it originated.
      From wikipedia: "Some experts theorize that the practice stemmed from the belief that the head contained "soul matter" or life force, which could be harnessed through its capture."

      Also in the audio books there were mentions of large numbers of immortals in ancient times, enough to form an army exclusively with them.
      The reason might be that they simply didn't have the tools yet to play the Game like you suggest.
      May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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      • #4
        Don't forget that in the audiobooks you can get at the Quickening through the brain.

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        • #5
          If you imagine Immortals have been around since the beginning... then they've been around before organized religion or "Holy Grounds" of any kind. Makes you wonder their initial baby steps to develop and "figure out" (or invent) the Game.
          Highlander: Dark Places

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dubiousbystander View Post
            Don't forget that in the audiobooks you can get at the Quickening through the brain.
            True, manipulation of the Quickening is something astounding but since Quickenings transfer knowledge (memories?) subjects can be manipulated, brainwashed and broken to make them susceptible to false memories.

            Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
            If you imagine Immortals have been around since the beginning... then they've been around before organized religion or "Holy Grounds" of any kind. Makes you wonder their initial baby steps to develop and "figure out" (or invent) the Game.
            If that would be true then surely the earliest could be when the genus homo manifested (still a whopping 2,5 million years ago), otherwise the road to immortal animals is wide open and there's no evidence for that. Immortal Bigfoot would be an option though.

            It does beg the question:
            What came first: Holy ground or the Game?

            May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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            • #7
              Well, you're also asking when they appeared. That's not the same as them being old. Richie, after all, died quite young.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dubiousbystander View Post
                Well, you're also asking when they appeared. That's not the same as them being old. Richie, after all, died quite young.
                I did ask that indeed. Because If immortals were around far earlier than the bronze age, a paradox similar to the Fermiparadox would exist.
                After all, where are all those immortals? Did the four horsemen cull them all, did warlord Darius or the ancient Parisian?

                It's statistically likely they emerged during human evolution but there's simply no evidence for it whatsoever.
                May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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