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Originally posted by dubiousbystander View Post
I rather wondered if Byron could not detect them, and kept trying to get himself a student of his own creative ilk. But then, that's rather too positive, eh?
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Originally posted by Andrew NDB View PostA pre-Immortal? It's not really made clear, though the general thinking is that only Immortals with finely attuned I-Dars can detect them at all.
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Originally posted by Ceridwen View PostMy point being they don't get detail from it, not even to the point of knowing whose buzz it is. For instance in the series when Methos comes to the barge after Joe got kidnapped but only close enough to trigger the buzz, Mac had no idea who it was who was outside or that he'd met him before, or that his buzz was really old. Just that another immortal was in proximity, even if out of sight. That's all.
Is it ever made clear if ALL immortals can spot a latent immortal?
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My point being they don't get detail from it, not even to the point of knowing whose buzz it is. For instance in the series when Methos comes to the barge after Joe got kidnapped but only close enough to trigger the buzz, Mac had no idea who it was who was outside or that he'd met him before, or that his buzz was really old. Just that another immortal was in proximity, even if out of sight. That's all.
Is it ever made clear if ALL immortals can spot a latent immortal?
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Originally posted by Ceridwen View PostAnd the buzz, the producers actually said it was nothing more than a heads up; just something to let one immortal know other immortals are nearby.
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Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
* Joe bursts through the mound of dirt, coughing *
Looks around, looks at where he'd been stabbed. Picks up the hilt of Duncan's katana, throws it aside.
JOE: You have GOT to be shitting me!!!
But no, don't buy it. Sometimes, you just make a connection with a person, even someone like Cord - probably especially someone like Cord. He had this boy scout, Joe, who he knew was 100% trustworthy, how often does some one like that pop up in his world?
As for the enclave on Holy Ground, had that with Brother Paul during the Kalas cycle. He established that monastery primarily for the aid and comfort of immortals who needed to get away from it all.
And the buzz, the producers actually said it was nothing more than a heads up; just something to let one immortal know other immortals are nearby. But I do remember reading a fan fic online about a scary story Methos once told about how immortals killed each other because all immortals are blessed/cursed with a fragment of a demon/deity's soul, one who had gotten too powerful and was shattered - the "there can be only one" thing is all the bits of the soul trying to reconstitute - good story, complete blather, but a good story.
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Originally posted by Colleengael View PostI could see him opening a series of Blues Clubs around the world all located on holy ground like Amanda's Sanctuary Club with apartments on the premises. He has enough immortal friends to travel with him as extra protection. We know he has no problem shooting an Immortal if needed to give himself time to leave.
If he provided a safe place for immortals to hang out without having to worry about the Game... he might be left alone.
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That's one I always raise. Story-wise the Quickening DOES transfer, and the winner DOES gain power, skills (that may remain fallow) and so on from it, though they do not consciously gain the memory. Implied with the original story, you don't know everything unless you're the last. However, I can consent that perhaps there doesn't have to be only One.
HL-TAS somewhat expanded on this topic as well although Quentin's never showed any comprehension of the Quickenings he gained.
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That's one I always raise. Story-wise the Quickening DOES transfer, and the winner DOES gain power, skills (that may remain fallow) and so on from it, though they do not consciously gain the memory. Implied with the original story, you don't know everything unless you're the last. However, I can consent that perhaps there doesn't have to be only One.
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It is unlikely Duncan is talking on behalf of the immortals residing within him or uses the majestic plural for just that situation.
Also if the Game would be a lie, what would the purpose of the Quickening be?
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That isn't the case with Immortals. How many times has Duncan said "its what we do?" The show never really argued whether the Game was a hoax or not - it was real, through and through.
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*shrugs* How many of us have done things because we thought we were supposed to or because it was "in our natures?" Don't we all know at least one woman who persists in keeping children she doesn't want because she believes she should want them? When in fact she and the kids would be happier if she gave them to someone who genuinely loves children? And I know several people who repeatedly ruin relationships because they see themselves as wicked, undeserving people. Expectations and personal myths can be as powerfully influential as reality.
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"Element of Fire" certainly builds Duncan's characterization as such. It starts with him defying the Game and the reason for thei existence within it, and ends up, with Khordas' death, embracing and reconciling himself with it. He's an Immortal who has to kill other Immortals.
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Originally posted by Aleander View PostIt always seemed to me like that was the implication, though. That they had to kill one another.
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It always seemed to me like that was the implication, though. That they had to kill one another. It was the whole point of "The Messenger" even.
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Originally posted by Coolwater View PostYeah, I've always wondered why more immortals didn't create holy ground enclaves. The only reason I can think of is if you argue that Ims are compelled to fight one another, and I've never bought that.
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And want out of "There can be only one," Drives me up the wall. Unless you come up with something really good, I object to tossing out the baby with the bathwater.
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We know that Emrys, Darius, Kalas, Brother Paul, Rebecca, Kim Sung, Korda, Father Liam, Amanda, Duncan, Connor and even Methos have all spent time hanging out on holy ground at some time or another. Even Michelle was sent to a convent to train.
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Yeah, I've always wondered why more immortals didn't create holy ground enclaves. The only reason I can think of is if you argue that Ims are compelled to fight one another, and I've never bought that.
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I could see him opening a series of Blues Clubs around the world all located on holy ground like Amanda's Sanctuary Club with apartments on the premises. He has enough immortal friends to travel with him as extra protection. We know he has no problem shooting an Immortal if needed to give himself time to leave.
If he provided a safe place for immortals to hang out without having to worry about the Game... he might be left alone.
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I've noticed that lots of us want everyone to be an immortal. That would take away from a lot of good plots.
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Originally posted by Nicholas Ward View PostMaybe his wife cheated
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Maybe his wife cheated
He knows all there is to know about immortals, I doubt he'd stay on holy ground.
I wonder if he would want to experience a Quickening or ask Duncan or Methos to take his. And would they comply?
Also he is fairly proficient with a gun, he could do about as well or better than Lord Byron
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Originally posted by dubiousbystander View PostBut they weren't in the vicinity of the Source yet... Also, Joe is a father. I wonder what happened to her in The Source reality.
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