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    What do you think? Is Methos just biding his time, pretending to be Duncan's buddy until Duncan takes out the strongest Immortals, then he'll chop off Duncan's head in his sleep? Is he truly a reformed Immortal, no evil or secret agenda inside since his days of being Death of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
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    Yes, Methos is evil
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    He's evil, but he's not going to betray Duncan or anything
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    No, he's not evil at all
    17.65%
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    He used to be evil, but he's not anymore
    29.41%
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    Something else (explain)
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    Highlander: Dark Places

  • #2
    Sociopath.

    Basically neutral, he's only interested in his own benefits. Evil or good doesn't mean much to him, he can be either as long as it serves his own interests.
    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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    • #3
      Interesting choice, Nicholas.

      Yeah, it makes sense. Anyone after 5000 years has got to be a little bit insane. I mean, you HAVE lived forever.

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      • #4
        He does lie, even in the present. Early in the show he told Duncan he had amnesia about his earliest years and has no idea how old he is. Yet much later in "Reunion," Methos is able to rattle off his exact age to Joe: 5,127 years of age, or whatever.
        Highlander: Dark Places

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        • Aleander
          Aleander commented
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          I don't think he was lying. I genuinely believe he doesn't remember his very early past. Why should he?

      • #5
        He can go either way. It's all an means to end.
        It's getting funky up in herre!

        Midnight Rambler formerly known as...

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        • #6
          I don't think Methos is evil or sociopathic. I think he's self-protective. He wasn't happy as a Horseman, but had no way to get out of it safely, so he did evil things, but as little as possible. And I think he wants friends, but people die young and immortals often kill one another, so he approaches Duncan and Amanda and Joe very cautiously. I think he is inclined to be cynical, but the fact that he does make friends with them, means he isn't fundamentally so.

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          • #7
            I think he was perfectly happy as a Horseman, at first. He was sure on a high when he took Cassandra, giddy with delight, I felt. However, he was losing his enthusiasm for raiding what with making of the camp a home, because he had her. My belief is that he didn't know he was trapped until Kronos got angry and took Cassandra away from him.

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            • #8
              Could be!

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              • #9
                In AD&D terms, I think he's chaotic neutral. I think he has long term goals, but they are secondary to his survival most of the time. When he fights or duels he uses only as much skill as he needs to. We really don't know how good he is.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Saber Dog View Post
                  In AD&D terms, I think he's chaotic neutral. I think he has long term goals, but they are secondary to his survival most of the time. When he fights or duels he uses only as much skill as he needs to. We really don't know how good he is.
                  Wouldn't that be an extremely risky strategy and contradict with his intention to survive? He has no way of knowing how much skill he needs each time.
                  May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                  • #11
                    It would if he had to lock in a skill level before the fight. I think his studies of other immortals gives him a good idea of their skill level and he's flexible enough to adjust during a fight. He does not want to give away his real skill level and does not want to be a tempting target.If you watch his fight with Kristen Giles he's not using much skill, although he does lure her into an attack, compared to his duel with Duncan, which he may have "lost" on purpose. What we haven't seen is him making a sneak attack, probably because it would go too far and make him less likable. But I could imagine him suddenly going to a combative draw in the midst of a pleasant chat if he needed to do so to win.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Saber Dog View Post
                      What we haven't seen is him making a sneak attack, probably because it would go too far and make him less likable. But I could imagine him suddenly going to a combative draw in the midst of a pleasant chat if he needed to do so to win.
                      Sort of like FAKE Methos did in "Not to Be." He's probably got that in him, almost undoubtedly.
                      Highlander: Dark Places

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                      • #13
                        Very philosophical question. A man of 5,000+ years, is that still even a man as we understand men? Is he 'just a guy?' (And no, I thought his rattling off of a specific age was clearly a joke, not anything he actually has a handle on. Do you remember the details of when you were 3? He has less reason or ability to than someone of 30 or 40 to remember that far back.)
                        Evil isn't something one is, evil is what one does. So no, he isn't evil, but he damn well has done evil. Considering who and what he is and how long he's been at it and still keeps himself alive it would be inconceivable that he hadn't done evil.
                        So has Darius, probably even more than Methos, but in his last decades would any one (excepting a Hunter) call him Evil? Doubt it. Bet there would have been numerous people to call him so during his heyday as a war lord though.
                        So as to the philosophy, Evil does not love, and it was made very clear in the episode Timeless that he was more than capable of love, in fact, even though you only saw Alexa Bond that one time, his great love for her colored the entire season. That's not to say he isn't capable of doing evil still, he is, but it's all about choice. Kronos chose to hang onto evil as his tool for control, nothing like a few evil deeds for getting folks to fear you and do what you want when you want.
                        The short answer; that would be a straight no. He's far too complex a creature for one word definitions. Probably the most interesting character the writers ever came up with.

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                        • #14
                          A character in one of my fanfics always says "A thousand," when asked his age. He's probably been saying that since he was 200.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Ceridwen View Post
                            Evil isn't something one is, evil is what one does.
                            That sums up why I voted for him being evil in the past but not anymore. Even the saintly Darius we got to know was still capable of being evil if he chose. Methos is like any predator. He does what he has to to survive. Sometimes the best way to survive is to be passive and not draw attention to yourself. Other times it's to go on the offensive.
                            They will need music to uplift
                            It'll be a godsend it'll be a gift
                            And hope and glory to coincide
                            They'll need the strength and warmth and comfort
                            That the music will provide

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