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  • Immortal Tier List

    Incomplete because the immortals from The Raven and the fan films have yet to be included.
    Obviously open for debate. If you think certain immortals should be higher or lower on the list please feel free to comment!

    10
    Kurgan
    Duncan Macleod
    Connor MacLeod
    Kell
    Kronos
    Otavio Consone
    Jin Ke
    Grayson
    Haresh Clay
    Kane
    Methos
    Silas

    9
    Lyman Kurlow
    Xavier St. Cloud
    Iman Fasil
    Darius
    Zai Jie
    Antonius Kalas
    Kassim
    Katherine
    The Guardian
    Nicholas Ward
    Martin Hyde

    8
    Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez
    Matthew McCormick
    Kyra
    Cardinal Giovanni
    Everett Bellian
    May-Ling Shen
    Axel Whittaker
    Rebecca Horne
    Caspian
    Brian Cullen
    Ceirdwyn
    Hans Kirschner

    7
    Graham Ashe
    Bartholomew
    Walter Graham
    Kern
    General Katana
    Micheal Kent
    Robert de Valincourt
    Gina de Valincourt
    Gabriel Piton
    Caleb Cole
    Terence Coventry
    Marcus Constantine

    6
    Jim Coltec
    Kamir
    Warren Cochrane
    Micheal Moore/Quentin Barnes
    Zachary Blaine
    Amanda
    Damon Case
    Carl Robinson
    Walter Reinhardt
    Luther
    Slan Quince
    Paul Kinman
    Reggie Weller
    Carlo Sendaro
    Anthony Galen
    Sunda Kastagir
    Arthur Drakov
    Richie Ryan
    Liam O'Rourke
    Paul Karros
    Andrew Cord
    Pierre Segur
    Thomas Sullivan
    Katya

    5
    Bernard Crimmins
    Hamza el Kahir
    Steven Keane
    John Garrick
    Kiem Sun
    Nefertiri
    Hugh Fitzcairn
    Ernst Daimler
    Nakano
    Felice Martin

    4
    Tyler King
    William Culbraith
    Alexei Voshin
    Roland Kantos
    Gerard Kragen
    Morgan Walker
    Lord Byron
    John Durgan
    Mako
    Howard Crowley
    Alfred Cahill
    Milos Vladic
    Ivan Kristov
    Kage
    Christophe Kuyler
    Frank Brody
    The Messenger
    Timon
    Gavriel Larca
    Alex Raven
    Reagan Cole
    Terrence Kincaid
    Morgan D'Estaing
    Cory Raines

    3
    Khabul Khan
    Senghis Khan
    Reno
    Corda
    Sean Burns
    Simon Killian
    Kanwulf
    Claude Deveraux
    Carter Wellan
    Peter Kanis
    Marcus Korolus
    Annie Devlin
    Jean-Philippe de la Faye III
    Ursa
    Winston Eruero
    Cassandra
    Michael Christian
    Gregor Powers
    Johnny Kelly
    Richard Tarsis
    Willy Kingsley
    Kit O'Brady
    Myron Corman
    Kristin Gilles
    Devon Marek
    David Keogh
    Alan Wells
    Manny Rieta
    Cracker Bob
    Andrew Donelly
    Jason Talbott
    Anton Legris
    Ingrid Henning
    Lucas Desiree

    2
    Bryce Korland
    Michel de Bourgogne
    Horvan Kant
    Carlos Dash
    Charles Browning
    Zoltan Laszlo
    Dalman Ross
    Kenneth
    Grace Chandell
    Carl the Hermit
    Lucas Kagan

    1
    Kate Devaney
    Enrique Grimaldo
    Derek Worth
    Luke Sarsfield
    Danny Cimoli
    Benjamin Carbassa
    Michelle Webster

    0
    Mikey Bellow
    Claudia Jardine
    Sean Zale
    Sharon Collins
    The Elder






    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

  • #2
    mikey should be higher

    he suffocated that noisy bitch and knocked out two cops

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Firkin View Post
      mikey should be higher

      he suffocated that noisy bitch and knocked out two cops
      Fair points. But do you think Mikey would defeat one or more of the immortals in the group above him?
      In a fight that would result in a Quickening?
      May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nicholas Ward View Post

        Fair points. But do you think Mikey would defeat one or more of the immortals in the group above him?
        In a fight that would result in a Quickening?
        most of them couldnt take his head either

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        • #5
          But they had basic training with a sword. Which is more than anyone from group 0 (except for the Elder but he is physically unfit to move, let alone fight)
          May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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          • #6
            Why is Matthew McCormick so high on the list?
            I would also put Derek Worth higher on the list because he was sent to train with Carl Robinson.

            How soon before you add the immortals from The Raven?
            Last edited by Colleengael; 05-18-2017, 08:13 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Colleengael View Post
              Why is Matthew McCormick so high on the list?
              I would also put Derek Worth higher on the list because he was sent to train with Carl Robinson.

              How soon before you add the immortals from The Raven?
              Matthew McCormick is so high on the list because of his comparison to Carl Robinson who is a decent fighter but who mentioned that he was utterly outclassed by Matthew McCormick.
              Still it's mostly hearsay and we never see McCormick fight. The list is largely based on the original Tier list on the old board but it's still open for suggestions. So where would you place McCormick? Who do you think he would beat in 1 vs 1 and who would he lose to?

              Derek Worth could be a few places higher but I doubt he could beat Grace Chandell. So where would you place him?
              May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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              • #8
                I would move Matthew down one and move Derek up one to Grace's level. Both are pacifists at heart but will fight when pushed. Both have also had training with experienced teachers.

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                • #9
                  10
                  Kurgan
                  Duncan Macleod
                  Connor MacLeod
                  Kell
                  Kronos
                  Otavio Consone
                  Jin Ke
                  Grayson
                  Haresh Clay
                  Kane
                  Methos
                  Silas

                  9
                  Lyman Kurlow
                  Xavier St. Cloud
                  Iman Fasil
                  Darius
                  Zai Jie
                  Antonius Kalas
                  Kassim
                  Katherine
                  The Guardian
                  Nicholas Ward
                  Martin Hyde

                  8
                  Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez
                  Kyra
                  Cardinal Giovanni
                  Everett Bellian
                  May-Ling Shen
                  Axel Whittaker
                  Rebecca Horne
                  Caspian
                  Brian Cullen
                  Ceirdwyn
                  Hans Kirschner

                  7
                  Graham Ashe
                  Matthew McCormick
                  Bartholomew

                  Walter Graham
                  Kern
                  General Katana
                  Micheal Kent
                  Robert de Valincourt
                  Gina de Valincourt
                  Gabriel Piton
                  Caleb Cole
                  Terence Coventry
                  Marcus Constantine
                  Derrick Markham

                  6
                  Jim Coltec
                  Kamir
                  Warren Cochrane
                  Micheal Moore/Quentin Barnes
                  Zachary Blaine
                  Amanda
                  Victor Hansen
                  John Ray Fielding
                  Damon Case
                  Sean
                  Mario Cordoza
                  Carl Robinson
                  Stefan Collier
                  Walter Reinhardt
                  Nick Wolfe
                  Luther
                  Slan Quince
                  Paul Kinman
                  Reggie Weller
                  Carlo Sendaro
                  Anthony Galen
                  Sunda Kastagir
                  Arthur Drakov
                  Richie Ryan
                  Liam O'Rourke
                  Talia Bauer
                  Paul Karros
                  Andrew Cord
                  Wilson Geary
                  Marco Becker
                  Basil Morgan
                  Pierre Segur
                  Thomas Sullivan
                  Katya

                  5
                  Bernard Crimmins
                  Hamza el Kahir
                  Frank Brennan
                  Steven Keane
                  John Garrick
                  Kiem Sun
                  Vladimir Rankov
                  Nefertiri
                  Hugh Fitzcairn
                  Julius Heller
                  Ernst Daimler
                  Nakano
                  Felice Martin

                  4
                  Tyler King
                  Andre Korda
                  William Culbraith
                  Alexei Voshin
                  Roland Kantos
                  Gerard Kragen
                  Evan Peyton
                  Morgan Walker
                  Lord Byron
                  John Durgan
                  Mako
                  Howard Crowley
                  Alfred Cahill
                  Milos Vladic
                  Ivan Kristov
                  Kage
                  Christophe Kuyler
                  Frank Brody
                  The Messenger
                  Timon
                  Gavriel Larca
                  Alex Raven
                  Reagan Cole
                  Terrence Kincaid
                  Morgan D'Estaing
                  Cory Raines

                  3
                  Khabul Khan
                  Senghis Khan
                  Crysta
                  Jade
                  Reno
                  Corda
                  Jeremy Dexter
                  Sean Burns
                  Simon Killian
                  Kanwulf
                  Claude Deveraux
                  Carter Wellan
                  Peter Kanis
                  Marcus Korolus
                  Annie Devlin
                  Jean-Philippe de la Faye III
                  Ursa
                  Winston Eruero
                  Cassandra
                  Michael Christian
                  Gregor Powers
                  Johnny Kelly
                  Richard Tarsis
                  Willy Kingsley
                  Kit O'Brady
                  Myron Corman
                  Liam Riley
                  Kristin Gilles
                  Devon Marek
                  David Keogh
                  Alan Wells
                  Manny Rieta
                  Cracker Bob
                  Andrew Donelly
                  Jason Talbott
                  Anton Legris
                  Ingrid Henning
                  Lucas Desiree

                  2
                  Bryce Korland
                  Michel de Bourgogne
                  Horvan Kant
                  Carlos Dash
                  Charles Browning
                  Zoltan Laszlo
                  Dalman Ross
                  Kenneth
                  Morgan Kenworth
                  Grace Chandell
                  Derek Worth

                  Carl the Hermit
                  Lucas Kagan

                  1
                  Kate Devaney
                  Enrique Grimaldo
                  Luke Sarsfield
                  Danny Cimoli
                  Benjamin Carbassa
                  Michelle Webster

                  0
                  Mikey Bellow
                  Claudia Jardine
                  Sean Zale
                  Sharon Collins
                  The Elder
                  May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                  • #10
                    Added immortals from The Raven and agreed with suggestions from colleengael.
                    May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                    • #11
                      What's the construct here? Who would kill whom?
                      “A sinner can always repent, but stupid is forever.”
                      Billy Sunday

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                      • #12
                        I'm happy to see Grace is not at the bottom. I like her character and she's got to be brave as any of them except possibly Darius. Sometimes I amuse myself by speculating she's actually a very stealthy and deadly player of the Game. She drugs her target, then while they are conscious but unable to move, she opens her bag, gets out her bone saw, and whistles while she works.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Coolwater View Post
                          What's the construct here? Who would kill whom?
                          Yes, basically. Or who would be most likely to win in a fight to the death because obviously some characters have overcome adversaries that were stronger.
                          Like Connor did with the Kurgan and Amanda versus Derrick Markham for example.

                          So if you think certain immortals should be on another spot on the list let me know
                          May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saber Dog View Post
                            I'm happy to see Grace is not at the bottom. I like her character and she's got to be brave as any of them except possibly Darius. Sometimes I amuse myself by speculating she's actually a very stealthy and deadly player of the Game. She drugs her target, then while they are conscious but unable to move, she opens her bag, gets out her bone saw, and whistles while she works.
                            She is quite hard to classify, she's fairly old, very benevolent and resides in very public places for her work which might make her difficult to fight.
                            Also she was the teacher of Kristin so she would certainly know a thing or 2 about combat. To be fair she could probably be anywhere up to half of Tier 3 if she would be willing to fight.
                            May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                            • #15
                              Fan Film immortals, Tier list.


                              7
                              Ian Campbell
                              Andrus Keradoc
                              Keric Njål
                              Renee Castel
                              David Quinlan
                              Angus
                              Malej Senna Cavaco

                              6
                              Justina Castillo
                              Grover Crispin
                              Kandarh
                              Kevin Donogan
                              Ximena

                              5
                              Willem Caelius
                              Kagan Milius
                              Rodica Lupei
                              Petricia Gabor

                              4
                              Mumbar
                              Tierany
                              Dorin

                              3
                              Alvaro Cortez
                              Basarab
                              Khat

                              2
                              Isobel Tannock
                              John Mosby

                              1
                              Grim


                              May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                              • #16
                                A few of the choices in the #6 tier feel a bit low to me. Amanda seemed to prove herself a tad more competent than that in her own show, and Slan Quince was apparently a big enough threat to the Prize that Connor took the time to hunt him. Remember that Duncan was able to beat him only because Connor had already worn him down. Kastigir is in that tier, too, and while I think he's not in Connor's league, he was apparently good enough to make it to the final three in the Gathering.
                                __________________________________________________

                                "Really? We are trapped in a room with a machine that can cut off my head. Now that's a longshot."
                                --Connor MacLeod in Peter Bellwood's original Highlander II script

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Tootsie Bee View Post
                                  A few of the choices in the #6 tier feel a bit low to me. Amanda seemed to prove herself a tad more competent than that in her own show, and Slan Quince was apparently a big enough threat to the Prize that Connor took the time to hunt him. Remember that Duncan was able to beat him only because Connor had already worn him down. Kastigir is in that tier, too, and while I think he's not in Connor's league, he was apparently good enough to make it to the final three in the Gathering.
                                  Fair enough. Although I think Connor did not hunt Slan but vice versa and Slan misjudged Duncan for easy prey.
                                  Where do you think Amanda, Slan and Kastagir should be?
                                  May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                  • #18
                                    Amanda is probably comparable to Rebecca by 1999. Slan and Kastagir would almost have to be on Fasil's level.
                                    __________________________________________________

                                    "Really? We are trapped in a room with a machine that can cut off my head. Now that's a longshot."
                                    --Connor MacLeod in Peter Bellwood's original Highlander II script

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Tootsie Bee View Post
                                      Amanda is probably comparable to Rebecca by 1999. Slan and Kastagir would almost have to be on Fasil's level.
                                      Could moving Rebecca down be a solution?
                                      Why do you think they should be on Fasil's level? After all what was shown on screen from Kastagir and Slan isn't that impressive. Slan only bested Connor with some trickery and Connor still got away. Kastagir fought but was beheaded mid fight, although making the final 3 is indeed impressive, I always had the Luther feel about him: Should've been great but wasn't really.
                                      May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                      • #20
                                        Yeah, Rebecca is a bit high. And I'm going off of Connor's words about Slan, not Moll's bad swordsmanship.
                                        __________________________________________________

                                        "Really? We are trapped in a room with a machine that can cut off my head. Now that's a longshot."
                                        --Connor MacLeod in Peter Bellwood's original Highlander II script

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Tootsie Bee View Post
                                          Yeah, Rebecca is a bit high. And I'm going off of Connor's words about Slan, not Moll's bad swordsmanship.
                                          So Rebecca down. How much? That particular bunch of immortals are very close to each other and very hard to beat. Moving down might be as far as right before Graham Ashe.

                                          I used visual data as the basic reference so Slan ended up where he is. If you could middle out visuals with reputation, where do you feel Slan stands?
                                          May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                          • #22
                                            He'd have to be an 8 at least. Otherwise, Connor wouldn't be so worried.
                                            __________________________________________________

                                            "Really? We are trapped in a room with a machine that can cut off my head. Now that's a longshot."
                                            --Connor MacLeod in Peter Bellwood's original Highlander II script

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by Tootsie Bee View Post
                                              He'd have to be an 8 at least. Otherwise, Connor wouldn't be so worried.
                                              Connor worries about mortals too... It's a big leap from 6 to 8 and Case, Blaine and Markham are big hurdles.
                                              But even if he would take the sliver of a chance against them, the Valincourts are impossible for him, let alone powerhouse Kern.
                                              Above that power levels and technique are taking leaps. In my opinion Slan's best he could do is Bartholomew, and that would take him tremendous luck and trickery.
                                              May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                              • #24
                                                10
                                                Kurgan
                                                Duncan Macleod
                                                Connor MacLeod
                                                Kell
                                                Kronos
                                                Otavio Consone
                                                Jin Ke
                                                Grayson
                                                Haresh Clay
                                                Kane
                                                Methos
                                                Silas

                                                9
                                                Lyman Kurlow
                                                Xavier St. Cloud
                                                Iman Fasil
                                                Darius
                                                Zai Jie
                                                Antonius Kalas
                                                Kassim
                                                Katherine
                                                The Guardian
                                                Nicholas Ward
                                                Martin Hyde

                                                8
                                                Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez
                                                Kyra
                                                Cardinal Giovanni
                                                Everett Bellian
                                                May-Ling Shen
                                                Axel Whittaker
                                                Caspian
                                                Brian Cullen
                                                Ceirdwyn
                                                Hans Kirschner

                                                7
                                                Graham Ashe
                                                Rebecca Horne
                                                Matthew McCormick
                                                Bartholomew
                                                Walter Graham
                                                Kern
                                                General Katana
                                                Micheal Kent
                                                Robert de Valincourt
                                                Gina de Valincourt
                                                Gabriel Piton
                                                Caleb Cole
                                                Terence Coventry
                                                Marcus Constantine
                                                Derrick Markham

                                                6
                                                Jim Coltec
                                                Kamir
                                                Warren Cochrane
                                                Micheal Moore/Quentin Barnes
                                                Zachary Blaine
                                                Amanda
                                                Victor Hansen
                                                John Ray Fielding
                                                Damon Case
                                                Sean
                                                Mario Cordoza
                                                Carl Robinson
                                                Stefan Collier
                                                Walter Reinhardt
                                                Nick Wolfe
                                                Luther
                                                Slan Quince
                                                Paul Kinman
                                                Reggie Weller
                                                Carlo Sendaro
                                                Anthony Galen
                                                Sunda Kastagir
                                                Arthur Drakov
                                                Richie Ryan
                                                Liam O'Rourke
                                                Talia Bauer
                                                Paul Karros
                                                Andrew Cord
                                                Wilson Geary
                                                Marco Becker
                                                Basil Morgan
                                                Pierre Segur
                                                Thomas Sullivan
                                                Katya

                                                5
                                                Bernard Crimmins
                                                Hamza el Kahir
                                                Frank Brennan
                                                Steven Keane
                                                John Garrick
                                                Kiem Sun
                                                Vladimir Rankov
                                                Nefertiri
                                                Hugh Fitzcairn
                                                Julius Heller
                                                Ernst Daimler
                                                Nakano
                                                Felice Martin

                                                4
                                                Tyler King
                                                Andre Korda
                                                William Culbraith
                                                Alexei Voshin
                                                Roland Kantos
                                                Gerard Kragen
                                                Evan Peyton
                                                Morgan Walker
                                                Lord Byron
                                                John Durgan
                                                Mako
                                                Howard Crowley
                                                Alfred Cahill
                                                Milos Vladic
                                                Ivan Kristov
                                                Kage
                                                Christophe Kuyler
                                                Frank Brody
                                                The Messenger
                                                Timon
                                                Gavriel Larca
                                                Alex Raven
                                                Reagan Cole
                                                Terrence Kincaid
                                                Morgan D'Estaing
                                                Cory Raines

                                                3
                                                Khabul Khan
                                                Senghis Khan
                                                Crysta
                                                Jade
                                                Reno
                                                Corda
                                                Jeremy Dexter
                                                Sean Burns
                                                Simon Killian
                                                Kanwulf
                                                Claude Deveraux
                                                Carter Wellan
                                                Peter Kanis
                                                Marcus Korolus
                                                Annie Devlin
                                                Jean-Philippe de la Faye III
                                                Ursa
                                                Winston Eruero
                                                Cassandra
                                                Michael Christian
                                                Gregor Powers
                                                Johnny Kelly
                                                Richard Tarsis
                                                Willy Kingsley
                                                Kit O'Brady
                                                Myron Corman
                                                Liam Riley
                                                Kristin Gilles
                                                Devon Marek
                                                David Keogh
                                                Alan Wells
                                                Manny Rieta
                                                Cracker Bob
                                                Andrew Donelly
                                                Jason Talbott
                                                Anton Legris
                                                Ingrid Henning
                                                Lucas Desiree

                                                2
                                                Bryce Korland
                                                Michel de Bourgogne
                                                Horvan Kant
                                                Carlos Dash
                                                Charles Browning
                                                Zoltan Laszlo
                                                Dalman Ross
                                                Kenneth
                                                Morgan Kenworth
                                                Grace Chandell
                                                Derek Worth
                                                Carl the Hermit
                                                Lucas Kagan

                                                1
                                                Kate Devaney
                                                Enrique Grimaldo
                                                Luke Sarsfield
                                                Danny Cimoli
                                                Benjamin Carbassa
                                                Michelle Webster

                                                0
                                                Mikey Bellow
                                                Claudia Jardine
                                                Sean Zale
                                                Sharon Collins
                                                The Elder



                                                Moved Rebecca down.
                                                May flights of Demons guide you to your final rest...

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Nicholas Ward View Post
                                                  1
                                                  Grim
                                                  Poor Grim.
                                                  Highlander: Dark Places

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